nice dream Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 chi è che spara a eddie il bello, nel finale delle iene, in quella meravigliosa sequenza di sparatoria incrociata?aiuto.l'ho rivisto l'altra notte e la faccenda funziona più o meno così:joe il capo punta la pistola su tim roth morente. mister white (harvey keitel) punta la pistola su joe il capo. eddie il bello, il figlio del capo, punta la pistola su mister white. fanno fuoco tutti e tre e si ammazzano. ma muore anche eddie il bello che non è sparato da nessuno cazzo.aiuto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascar Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 tim roth. gli spara tim roth, cazzo. a chi spara tim roth? solo che perchè?così, tanto perchè cazzo non era mica giusto che restava in piedi?e la carrozzina di kill bill che cazzo di fine ha fatto?e il pelato capo degli 88 folli che cazzo ha le vite multiple?e perchè viviamo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nice dream Posted November 10, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 tim roth. gli spara tim roth, cazzo. a chi spara tim roth? solo che perchè?così, tanto perchè cazzo non era mica giusto che restava in piedi?e la carrozzina di kill bill che cazzo di fine ha fatto?e il pelato capo degli 88 folli che cazzo ha le vite multiple?e perchè viviamo? non gli spara tim roth.perché tim roth ha finito il caricatore sul mister blonde prima. eppoi è rantolante e disarmato. non gli spara tim roth. lo so, ascar bello, che vorresti che gli sparasse tim roth. perché vorresti che tim roth fosse cattivo. perché vorresti assomigliare a un cattivo. e invece ti tocca di assomigliare- ma proprio sputato sputato- a un cazzo di sbirro di merda che rantola per tutto il film. e non riesce neanche a salvare l'amico con l'orecchio mozzato.a uno sbirro assomigli. rassegnati.viviamo per dire cazzate, fondamentalmente. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascar Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 o spariamo cazzate, scritte e orali, per vivere?e poi assomiglio anche a guidernstern. cazzo.e bananaco a rosencrantz. porca troia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nice dream Posted November 10, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 cazzo antò, sei uguale.eppoi finisci pure sparato da una babbiona bionda del cazzo che non c'entrava niente. bah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascar Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 cazzo antò, sei uguale.eppoi finisci pure sparato da una babbiona bionda del cazzo che non c'entrava niente. bah. che dici parliamo di M.T. R.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nice dream Posted November 10, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 cazzo antò, sei uguale.eppoi finisci pure sparato da una babbiona bionda del cazzo che non c'entrava niente. bah. che dici parliamo di M.T. R.? questo si chiama giocare sporco, mister orange... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascar Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 cazzo antò, sei uguale.eppoi finisci pure sparato da una babbiona bionda del cazzo che non c'entrava niente. bah. che dici parliamo di M.T. R.? questo si chiama giocare sporco, mister orange... quando il gioco si fa duro...poi non mi ricordo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco il Santo Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 io l'ho visto tempo fa, e mi pare fosse Mr White ad ammazzare sia Joe che Eddie il bello... possibile? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHAA Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 io l'ho visto tempo fa, e mi pare fosse Mr White ad ammazzare sia Joe che Eddie il bello... possibile? no no Mr White no. L'unico che teoricamente poteva, ma il film non lo lascia intendere, è Mr Pink (che tra l'altro è l'unico che si salva).Dalla ferita che si vede sul cadavere di eddie, e visto come erano posizionati, effettivamente sembrerebbe Mr White il quale però nella scena è in primo piano e non ha nè il tempo nè il modo di sparare a Eddie.Per l'esito dell'autopsia ripassare fra 2 giorni, ma vi posso già dire che si tratta di morte violenta da proiettile. Per sapere la provenienza del proiettile stesso rivolgersi al settore balistica. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nice dream Posted November 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 già. perché mr.white spara a joe e intanto viene ucciso da eddie.a eddie gli potrebbe sparare tim roth, che però è disarmato nella sequenza prima e soprattutto sta lasciandoci pure l'anima sul pavimento.mr. pink dici? dove cazzo è finito mr. pink in tutta la sparatoria? è vero. cazzo.dov'è quello stronzo di mr. pink?però che motivo avrebbe di sparare a eddie il bello, mr. pink? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trashit Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 cazzo antò, sei uguale.eppoi finisci pure sparato da una babbiona bionda del cazzo che non c'entrava niente. bah. peccato che la foto è di un'altro film Gridlock'd (1997) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nice dream Posted November 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 cazzo antò, sei uguale.eppoi finisci pure sparato da una babbiona bionda del cazzo che non c'entrava niente. bah. peccato che la foto è di un'altro film Gridlock'd (1997) trashit ghezzi... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHAA Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 già. perché mr.white spara a joe e intanto viene ucciso da eddie.a eddie gli potrebbe sparare tim roth, che però è disarmato nella sequenza prima e soprattutto sta lasciandoci pure l'anima sul pavimento.mr. pink dici? dove cazzo è finito mr. pink in tutta la sparatoria? è vero. cazzo.dov'è quello stronzo di mr. pink?però che motivo avrebbe di sparare a eddie il bello, mr. pink? mr Pink è fuori inquadratura, quando cambia la camera, e si passa sull'immagine dei cadaveri si vede Mr Pink sbucare ranicchiato dal di sotto delle scale dove sta morendo tim roth. Da come ci è mostrata la scena e dall'eventuale angolo di sparo non può essere stato neanche Mr Pink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascar Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 che trip... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sallu Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 Ragazzi sono stato io OK? Mi stava sul cazzo il fatto che lo chiamassero eddie il bello... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sallu Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 spostando l'argomento del topic su un tema di importanza fondamentale, vi faccio una domanda che mi tormenta da tempo:MA SECONDO VOI DI CHE PARLA LIKE A VIRGIN DI MADONNA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sallu Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 A uccidere eddie il bello è mr white, che infatti spara due colpi: uno al padre e il secondo a eddie il bello, mentre quest'ultimo a sua volta gli spare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHAA Posted November 24, 2003 Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 A uccidere eddie il bello è mr white, che infatti spara due colpi: uno al padre e il secondo a eddie il bello, mentre quest'ultimo a sua volta gli spare noooo, vado a memoria, se la guardi al rallentatore Mr White sposta leggermente la pistola ma esce un colpo solo (dal fumo). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42foisnon Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 A uccidere eddie il bello è mr white, che infatti spara due colpi: uno al padre e il secondo a eddie il bello, mentre quest'ultimo a sua volta gli spare esatto. 'E una cosa che mi sono domandato anch'io, allora ho guardato questa scena diverse volte, e sono arrivato alla misma conclusione. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sallu Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 gente l'ho scaricato e ho visto la scena 10 volte, si vede mr white che spara al capo, poi eddie che gli spara e mr.white che gli spara subito dopo. se poi non c'è il fumo è un errore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular_John Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Secondo me mr.pink non si è salvato per niente.quando fugge dal magazzino si possono sentire di sottofondo le macchine della polizia arrivare e dei colpi di pistola.......mentre mr.white regge il corpo di mr.orange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHAA Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 A uccidere eddie il bello è mr white, che infatti spara due colpi: uno al padre e il secondo a eddie il bello, mentre quest'ultimo a sua volta gli spare Riesumazione.mi è capitato fra le mani questo script(se vi interessano altre www.tarantino.info )si ha ragione Sallu...anche se il fumo dalla pistola...mahvi isolo il pezzo in questione:INT. WAREHOUSE - DAYMEDIUM SHOT on the door. Nice Guy Eddie, Mr. White andMr. Pink walk through it. They stop in their tracks.We see what they see. Mr. Blonde, lying on the ground,shot full of holes. The cop slumped over in his chair, abloody mess, Mr. Orange lying at the cop's feet, holdinghis wound. Eddie, Mr. White and Mr. Pink walk into theshot.EDDIEWhat the fuck happened here?Eddie runs over to his friend Mr. Blonde/Toothpick Vic.MR. WHITE(to Mr. Orange)What happened?MR. ORANGE(very weakly)Blonde went crazy. He slashed thecop's face, cut off his ear andwas gonna burn him alive.EDDIE(yelling)Who cares what he was gonna do tothis fuckin pig?Eddie whips out his gun and SHOOTS the cop. The cop andthe chair tip over. Eddie stands over him and SHOOTS himonce more.EDDIE(to Mr. Orange)You were saying he went crazy?Something like that? Worse orbetter?MR. ORANGELook, Eddie, he was pullin a burn.He was gonna kill the cop and me.And when you guys walked throughthe door, he was gonna blow you tohell and make off with thediamonds.MR. WHITE(to Eddie)Uhuh, uhuh, what's I tell ya?That sick piece of shit was astone cold psycho.MR. ORANGE(to Eddie)You could've asked the cop, if youdidn't just kill him. He talkedabout what he was going to do whenhe was slicing him up.EDDIEI don't buy it. It doesn't makesense.MR. WHITEIt makes perfect fuckin sense tome. Eddie, you didn't see how heacted during the job, we did.Mr. Pink walks over to the cop's body.MR. PINKHe's right about the ear, it'shacked off.EDDIE(to Mr. Orange)Let me say this out loud, just toget it straight in my mind.According to you, Mr. Blonde wasgonna kill you. Then when we cameback, kill us, grab the diamonds,and scram. That's your story?I'm correct about that, right?MR. ORANGEEddie, you can believe me or notbelieve me, but it's the truth. Iswear on my mother's eternal soulthat's what happened.The CAMERA mover into a C.U. of Nice Guy Eddie.There's a long pause while he rolls over what Mr. Orangehas said. Finally:EDDIEYou're a fuckin liar. Now whydon't you drop the fuckin fairytale and tell me what reallyhappened?MR. WHITE (OS)He told you what really happened.You just can't deal with it.MR. ORANGE (OS)Okay, you're right, I'm lying.Even though I'm fuckin dyin I'mnot above pullin a fast one. Getrid of Blonde, we share his split- no, scratch that, I shot him'cause I didn't like his hairstyle. I didn't like his shoeseither. If it has just been hishair, I'd've maybe, maybe I said,let him live. But hair andfootwear together, he's a goner.EDDIEThe man you killed was justreleased from prison. He gotcaught at a company warehouse fullof hot items. He could've walkedaway. All he had to do was say mydad's name. But instead he shuthis mouth and did his time. Hedid four years for us, and he did'em like a man. And we were verygrateful. So, Mr. Orange, you'retellin me this very good friend ofmine, who did four years for myfather, who in four years nevermade a deal, no matter what theydangled in front of him, you'retelling me that now, that now thisman is free, and we're making goodon our commitment to him, he'sjust gonna decide, right out ofthe fuckin blue, to rip us off?Silence.EDDIEMr. Orange, why don't you tell mewhat really happened?VOICE (OS)Why? It'll just be more bullshit.Eddie steps out of his C.U. and we see Joe Cabot standingin the warehouse doorway. He walks into the room.JOE(pointing to Mr.Orange)This man set us up.CAMERA does a 360 around the men.EDDIEDaddy, I'm sorry, I don't knowwhat's happening.JOEThat's okay, Eddie, I do.MR. WHITE(to Joe)What the fuck are you talkingabout?JOE(pointing to Mr.Orange)That piece of shit. Workin withthe cops.MR. WHITE MR. PINK EDDIEWhat?JOEI said this lump of shit is workinwith the LAPD.MR. ORANGE'S POVLooking up from the floor at everybody.Joe looks down at Mr. Orange.JOEAren't you?MR. ORANGE (OS)I don't have the slightest fuckinidea what you're talkin about.MR. WHITE(very calmly to Joe)Joe, I don't know what you thinkyou know, but you're wrong.JOELike hell I am.MR. WHITE(very calmly)Joe, trust me on this, you've madea mistake. He's a good kid. Iunderstand you're hot, you'resuper-fuckin pissed. We're allreal emotional. But you'rebarking up the wrong tree. I knowthis man, and he wouldn't do that.JOEYou don't know jack shit. I do.This rotten bastard tipped off thecops and got Mr. Brown and Mr.Blue killed.MR. PINKMr. Blue's dead?JOEDead as Dillinger.EDDIEThe motherfucker killed Vic.MR. WHITEHow do you know all this?JOEHe was the only one I wasn't ahundred percent on. I should havemy fucking head examined for goinforward when I wasn't a hundredpercent. But he seemed like agood kid, and I was impatient andgreedy and all the things thatfuck you up.MR. WHITE(screaming)That's your proof?JOEYou don't need proof when you gotinstinct. I ignored it before,but not no more.He WHIPS out a revolver and aims it at Mr. Orange.Mr. White brings his .45 up at Joe.Eddie and Mr. Pink are shook awake by the flash offirearms.Eddie raises his gun, pointing it at Mr. White.EDDIEHave you lost your fucking mind?Put your gun down!Mr. Pink fades into the B.G., wanting no part of this.MR. WHITEJoe, you're making a terriblemistake I can't let you make.EDDIEStop pointing your fuckin gun atdaddy!Joe, never taking his eyes off Mr. Orange.JOEDon't worry, Eddie. Me and Larryhave been friends a long time, heain't gonna shoot. We like eachother too much.MR. WHITEJoe, if you kill that man, you dienext. Repeat, if you kill thatman, you die next!We get many different angles of the Mexican standoff.MEDIUMS ON EVERYBODYMr. Orange holding his belly, looking from left to right.Joe pointing down on Mr. Orange. Not taking his eyes offhim.Mr. White pointing at Joe, looking like he's ready tostart firing any minute.Eddie scared shitless for his father, gun locked on Mr.White.Mr. Pink walking backwards away from the action.Nobody says nothing.FOUR SHOTof guys ready for violence. Mr. Pink in the B.G.MR. PINKC'mon, guys, nobody wants this.We're supposed to me fuckinprofessionals!Joe raises his head to Mr. White.JOELarry, I'm gonna kill him.MR. WHITEGoddamn you, Joe, don't make me dothis!JOELarry, I'm askin you to trust meon this.MR. WHITEDon't ask me that.JOEI'm not askin, I'm betting.Joe's eyes go back to Mr. Orange.EDDIEDaddy, don't!Joe FIRES three times, HITTING Mr. Orange with every one.Mr. White SHOOTS Joe twice in the face. Joe brings hishands up to his face, screaming, and falls to the ground.Eddie FIRES at Mr. White, HITTING him three times in thechest.Mr. White brings his gun around on Eddie and SHOOTS him.The two men FALL to their knees, FIRING at each other.Eddie COLLAPSES, dead.Joe's dead.Mr. Orange lies perfectly still, except for his chestheaving. The only SOUND we hear is his loud breathing.Mr. White is SHOT full of holes, but still on his knees,not moving.Mr. Pink is standing motionless. Finally he grabs thesatchel of diamonds and RUNS out the door.We hear outside a CAR START. Then the SOUND of a BULLHORNyells out:POLICE FORCE (OS)Freeze! Get out of the car and lieface down on the ground!MR. PINK (OS)Don't shoot!We now hear SIRENS, the SOUNDS of more CARS DRIVING UP,MEN RUNNING to the warehouse.While all this noise is going on, Mr. White tries to standbut FALLS DOWN. He somehow makes it to where Mr. Orangelies.He lifts Mr. Orange's head, cradling it in his lap andstroking his brow.MR. WHITE(with much effort)Sorry, kid. Looks like we'regonna do a little time.Mr. Orange looks up at him and, with even more of aneffort:MR. ORANGEI'm a cop.Mr. White doesn't say anything, he keeps stroking Orange'sbrow.MR. ORANGEI'm sorry, I'm so sorry.Mr. White lifts his .45 and places the barrel between Mr.Orange's eyes.The CAMERA MOVES into an EXTREME C.U. of Mr White.The SOUNDS of outside STORM inside. We don't seeanything, but we HEAR a bunch of shotguns COCKING.POLICE FORCE (OS)Freeze, motherfucker! Drop yourfucking gun!Mr White looks up at them, smiles, PULLS the trigger.BANGWe hear a BURST of SHOTGUN FIRE.Mr. White is BLOWN out of frame, leaving it empty. 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